Commentary on the Catechism of the Catholic Church

St. Peters St. Peters

At the time of the current pope’s death, from my American, western, point of view, it seems like virtually the only religion is Catholic.

I grabbed a copy of the Catechism of the Catholic Church to see what it’s official doctrine is.

The Catechism has assigned numbers to the paragraphs, so I will refer to those paragraphs when referencing a passage. CC Par = Catholic Catechism, paragraph #.

Scripture and tradition are given equal weight

CC par 82 “Both Scripture and Tradition must be accepted and honored with equal sentiments of devotion and reverence.”

The scripture itself was inspired by God. But tradition is created by man. Putting them as equal puts man in the role of God, creating doctrine or traditions that are equal to the scripture itself. In the catholic doctrine the traditions are determined by the magisterium.

In 2 thess 2:15 it says this: “2 Thessalonians 2:15 So then, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye were taught, whether by word, or by epistle of ours.”

This scripture does not mean the traditions have the same weight as the scripture itself. It is saying hold fast to the doctrine you have been taught (which agree with the scripture).

Here is what Jesus said about the traditions established by the Pharasees.

Matthew 15:2 Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.

Matthew 15:3 And he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition?

The Magisterium Super Class over the Lay People

CC Para 85 “The task of giving an authentic interpretation of the Word of God, whether in its written form or in the form of Tradition, has been entrusted to the living, teaching office of the Church alone. Its authority in this matter is exercised in the name of Jesus Christ. This means that the task of interpretation has been entrusted to the bishops in communion with the successor of Peter, the Bishop of Rome.”

This means that the lay people cannot interpret scripture, and that only the Bishops and the Pope are able to. Effectively, the leadership of the Catholic church has set themselves up as a super class over the people. It is a reinstatement of the Levitical system and is contrary to the teaching in 1Cor 12, where the body is joined together, each contributing their part.

CC Par 87 “Mindful of Christ’s words to his apostiles: “He who hears you, hears me, the faithful receive with docility the teachings and directives that their pastors give them in different forms.”

Read accept whatever the priests say, without question.

This paragraph is even more clear:

CC Para 100 “The task of interpreting the Word of God authentically has been entrusted solely to the Magisterium of the Church, that is, to the Pope and to the Bishops in communion with him.”

Dogma of faith is Irrevocable

CC Par 88 : The Church’s Magisterium exercises the authority it holds from Christ to the fullest extent when it defines dogma, that is, when it proposes, in a form obliging the Christian people to an irrevocable adherence of faith, truths contained in divine Revelation or also when it proposes, in a definitive way, truths having a necessary connection with these.”

When the Catholic Church sets dogma, it cannot be changed–it is irrevocable. They cannot correct their mistakes.

Contrary to scripture:

2 Timothy 3:16 Every scripture inspired of God is also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction which is in righteousness.


The Magisterium are part of salvation

CC Para 95 “It is clear therefore that, in the supremely wise arrangement of God, sacred Tradition, Sacred Scripture, and the Magisterium of the Church are so connected and associated that one of them cannot stand without the others. Working together, each in its own way, under the actions of the one Holy Spirit, they all contribute effectively to the salvation of the souls.”

Tradition, Sacred Scripture, and the Magisterium are put on an equal basis. Your salvation depends on all three, since one cannot exist without the other.

Contrary to scripture:

Ephesians 2:8 for by grace have ye been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;


The Eighth Day Begins the New Creation

CC Para 349 “The eighth day. But for us a new day has dawned: the day of Christ’s Resurrection. The seventh day completes the first creation. The eighth day begins the new creation. Thus, the work of creation culminates in the greater work of redemption. The first creation finds its meaning and its summit in the new creation in Christ, the splendor of which surpasses that of the first creation.”

Hebrews 4:9 There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God.

We are included into the Sabbath rest–symbolized by the seventh day. Because our sabbath rest in now in Christ, we are free to worship any time, not just on a physical sabbath day. Saturday or Sunday.

There are no references to the eighth day beginning the new creation.


Original Sin

CC Para 374 The first man was not only created good…

CC Para 402 All men are implicated in Adam’s sin, as St. Paul affirms: “By one man’s obedience man [that is, all men] were made sinners”: “Sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men sinned…. The apostle contrasts the universality of sin and death with the universality of salvation in Christ. “Then as one man’s trespass led to condemnations for all men, so one man’s act of righteousness leads to acquittal an life for all men.”

CC Para 403 …and the fact that he [Adam] has transmitted to us a sin with which we are all born aflicted, as sin which is the “death of the soul.” Because of this certainty of faith, the Chuirch baptizes for the remission of sins even tiny infants who have not commited personal sin.

This is saying:

  1. Adam was created good, but he chose to sin.
  2. This sin is passed on to all of his descendants–like a disease.
  3. Sin brings universal death, but Christs sacrifice brings universal salvation.
  4. Therefore, baptism (even of infants) gives them eternal life.

Deuteronomy 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

Every man is responsible for this own sin.

Romans 5:12 Therefore, as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin; and so death passed unto all men, for that all sinned:?

All men are condemed, because all men have sinned. Not, that a sin was passed to them.

Salvation requires belief.

John 20:21 30 Many other signs therefore did Jesus in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book: 31 but these are written, that ye may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye may have life in his name.


Mary (Jesus’ mother) was sinless

CC Para 411 The Christian tradition sees in this passage an announcement of the “New Adam” who, because he “became obedient unto death, even death on a cross, ” makes amends superabundantly for the disobedience of Adam. Furthermore many Fathers and Doctors of the Church have seen the woman announced in the Protoevangelium as Mary, the mother of Christ, the “new Eve.” Mary benefited first of all and uniquely from Christ’s victory over sin: She was preserved from all stain from original sin and by a special grace of God committed no sin of any kind during her whole earthly life.

Romans 5:12 Therefore, as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin; and so death passed unto all men, for that all sinned:

All men (and women) through the ages have sinned.

Romans 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we before laid to the charge both of Jews and Greeks, that they are all under sin; 10 as it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one;

Not even one.

Luke 1:46 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, 47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.

If Mary had no sin, why would she need a savior?

The problem is this. If you teach original sin, then everyone, including Mary and Jesus must be born with sin. This conflicts with this verse:

Hebrews 4:15 For we have not a high priest that cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but one that hath been in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

Jesus had no sin. He is the only one thoughout history to have no sin.

1John3:4 ? Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Jesus had no sin–he kept the law perfectly. He is the only man who could have obtained salvation by his own works.

Mary, his mother, on the other hand, needed a savior.

Are we to become God?

CC Para 460 “… for the Son of God became man so that we might become God. The only-begotten Son of God , wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods.”

Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Even outside of time, where will be no other God.

Is it okay to represent Jesus in images

CC Para 476 Since the Word became flesh in assuming the true humanity, Christ’s body was finite. Therefore the human face of Jesus can be portrayed; at the seventh ecumenical council (Nicaea II in 787) the Church recognized its representation in the holy images to be legitimate.

That is, since Jesus was flesh it is okay to represent him in images.

Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image, nor any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

Images are not to be used in worship. Period.


Mary “ever-virgin”

CC 499 The deepening of faith in the virinal motherhood led the Church to confess Mary’s real and prepetual virginity even in the act of giving birth to the Son of God made man. In fact, Christ’s birth “did not deminish his mother’s virginal integrity bu sanctified it. And so the liturgy of the Church celebrates Mary as Aeiparthenos, the “Ever-virgin.”

Mk 3:31 32 And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.

The Catholic church denies that his passage is talking about Jesus’ brothers, but instead is talking about another Mary.

Gal 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord?s brother.

No. James was the Lord’s brother.

Lk 2:7 And she brought forth her firstborn Son, and wrapped Him in swaddling cloths, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.

Lk 2:7 implies that Jesus was not the only son, but that he was the “firstborn” among brothers.

Will the real James please stand up?

CC Para 500 Against this doctrine the objection is sometimes raised that the Bible mentions brothers and sisters of Jesus. The Church has always understood these passages as not referring to other children of the Virgin Mary. In fact James and Joseph, “brothers of jesus,” are the sons of another Mary, a disciple of Christ, whom St. matthew significantly call “the other Mary.” They are close relations of Jesus, according to the Old Testament expression.

Matt 13:55 Is not this the carpenter?s son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

Matt 27:56 Among which was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee?s children.

There are a bunch of James’

  • James the son of Zebedee.
  • James the brother of Jesus.
  • James the son of Mary.
  • James the son of Alphaeus.
  • James the son or brother of Judas/Jude.

My personal conclusion is that when the scriptures say directly that James was the brother of the Lord, he means a sibling of Jesus.

Binding and Loosing

CC Para 553 Jesus entrusted a specific authority to Peter: “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” The “power of the keys” designates authority to govern the house of God, which is the Church. Jesus, the Good Shepherd, confirmed this mandate after his Resurrection: “Feed my sheep.” The power to “bind and loose” connotes the authority to absolve sins, to pronounce doctrinal judgements, and to make disciplinary decisions in the Church. Jesus entrusted the authority to the Church through the ministry of the apostles and in particular through the ministry of Peter, the only one to whom he specifically entrusted the keys of the kingdom.

The first part of this paragraph is correct. Authority was given to Peter to govern the church. But it goes on to say a few more things, namely, that the church can forgive sins and that the only one given this authority was Peter.

A reference is given to Mat 16:18-19:

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

But this is a parallel passage concerning this in Matt 18:

15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. 18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

These passages show how to deal with a brother who is sinning and specifically it gives the authority to “the church,” not just to Peter.

If a brother sins against another brother. First, go to him privately. If he will not hear, get two or three witnesses. If he still won’t hear bring it before the church body. If he doesn’t listen to the church body, then he is to be disfellowshipped (thrown out of the church). God will honor this descision.

But where does it say that any man can forgive sins?

Luke 5:21 And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone? Luke 5:24 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power upon earth to forgive sins, (he said unto the sick of the palsy,) I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy couch, and go into thine house.

Jesus was God, and he is the only one that can forgive sins.

“The power to “bind and loose” connotes the authority to absolve sins, to pronounce doctrinal judgements, and to make disciplinary decisions in the Church.”

Does “pronounce doctrinal judgments” mean add to or change the scriptures?

Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.


Is the Daughter of Zion the church?

CC Para 559 “…, the “King of glory” enters his City “riding on an ass.” Jesus conquers the Daugher of Zion, a figure of his church…”

Isaiah 52:2 Shake thyself from the dust; arise, and sit down, O Jerusalem: loose thyself from the bands of thy neck, O captive daughter of Zion.

Zechariah 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

The Daughter of Zion is always refered to as Jerusalem, not the church.


No person of the Antichrist

CC Para 675 “…The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah come in the flesh.

1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

1 John 4:3 does indeed say that there is a spirit of antichrist. But he will also exist in a person.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;


Did Jesus acquire the right to judgement by his death on the cross?

CC Para 679 Christ is Lord of eternal life. Full right to pass definitive judgement on the works and hearts of men belogs to him as redeemer of the world. He “acquired” this right by his cross. …”

John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

Here is an interesting statement from the same paragraph:

“By rejecting grace in this life, one already judges oneself, receives according to one’s works, and can even condemn oneself for all eternity by rejecting the Spirit of love.

Is the Holy Spirit the first to awaken faith in us?

CC Para 684 Through his greace, the Holy Spirit is the first to awaken faith in us and to communicate to us the new life, which is to “know the Father and the one whom he has sent, Jesus Christ.”

John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Mary, prepared, fullfils, manifests and brings into communion

CC Para 722, 723, 724, 725 “The Holy Spirit prepared Mary by his grace…conceived without sin…” “In Mary, the Holy Spirit fulfills the plan of the Father’s loving goodness.” “In Mary, the Holy Spirit manifests the Son of the Father, now become the Son of the Virgin.” “Finally, through Mary, the Holy Spirit begins to bring men, the objects of God’s merciful love, into communion with Christ.”

Mary is not the center of the Gospel. These are all false statements.

CC Para 726 At the end of the mission of the Spirit, Mary became the Woman, the new Eve (“mother of the living”).

What does Mary have to do with a Christian’s new birth?

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.


The Catholic Church, Mother of Ecumenism

CC Para 813 “…Unity is of the essence of the church:

What an astonishing mystery! There is one Father of the universe, one Logos of the universe, and also one Holy Spirit, everywhere one and the same; there is also one virgin become mother, and I should like to call her “Church.”

CC Para 814 From the beginning, this one Chruch has been marked by a great diversity which comes from both the variety of God’s gifts and the diversity of those who receive them….


CC Para 816 “The sole Church of Christ [that is] which our Savior, after his Resurrection, entrusted to Peter’s pastoral care, commissioning him and the other apostiles to extend and rule it… This Church, constituted and organized as a society in the present world, subsists (subsistit in) the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the bishops in communion with him. The Second Vatican Council’s Decree on Ecumenism explains: For it is through Christ’s Catholic Church alone, which his the universal help toward salvation, that the fullness of the means of salvation can be obtained…


CC Para 817 In fact, “in this one and only Church of God from its very beginnings there arose certain rifts, which the Apostle strongly censures and ****amble. But in subsequent centuries much more serious dissensions appeared and large communities became separated from the full communion with the Catholic Church….

CC Para 818 “However, one cannot charge with the sin of the separation those who at present are born into these communities [that resulted from such separation] and in them are brought up in the faith of Christ, and the Catholic Church accepts them with respect and affection as brothers…

I read these paragraphs like this: All Christian churchs split from the Catholic Church, but the Catholic church still sees them as brothers and will welcome them back under the universal church banner.

Pax Romina–If you Acknowledge the Pope you can retain your identity under the Catholic Church umbrella.

The path of penance and renewal

CC Para 827 “Christ, ‘holy, innocent, and undefiled,’ knew nothing of sin, but came only to expiate the sins of the people. the Church, however, clasping sinners to her bosom, at once holy and always in neeed of purification, follows constantly the path of penance and renewal. All members of the church , including her ministers, must acknowledge that they are sinners. In everyone, the weeds of sin will still be mixed with the good wheat of the Gospel until the end of time. Hence the Church gathers sinners already caught up in Christ’s salvation but still on the way to holiness:

In the Levitical system, when a person sinned they would bring an animal and sacrifice it for the forgivenss of the sin.

27 ? And if any one of the common people sin through ignorance, while he doeth somewhat against any of the commandments of the LORD concerning things which ought not to be done, and be guilty; 28 Or if his sin, which he hath sinned, come to his knowledge: then he shall bring his offering, a kid of the goats, a female without blemish, for his sin which he hath sinned. 29 And he shall lay his hand upon the head of the sin offering, and slay the sin offering in the place of the burnt offering. 30 And the priest shall take of the blood thereof with his finger, and put it upon the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and shall pour out all the blood thereof at the bottom of the altar. 31 And he shall take away all the fat thereof, as the fat is taken away from off the sacrifice of peace offerings; and the priest shall burn it upon the altar for a sweet savour unto the LORD; and the priest shall make an atonement for him, and it shall be forgiven him.

If a person sinned again, they would need to do it all over again. If they sinned a thousand times they would need to sacrifice a thousand times. It was one for one.

Jesus’ sacrifice for our sins is not like the levitical sacrifices. Jesus sacrificed himself once for the forgivenss of all sin. He does not need to be sacrificed again and again for each of our sins.

Hebrews 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

Once Jesus’ sacrifice atones for your sin all past sins are forgiven and all future sins that you will commit are forgiven. Even though you sin in the flesh the Father sees no sin because it is covered by Jesus’ sacrifice. It is as if you never sinned your entire life.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

This differs from the Catholic church greatly, where “penace and renewal” are how sins are forgiven. The Catholic church is still under the levitical system, as it were. If a Catholic sins he/she must go before the priest, for those sins alone to be forgiven. If a Catholic sins again, they must go again to have their sins forgiven (by the priest). It is a continual cycle of sin and sacrifice (penance), which can never actually remove your sin. Under this system there is no assurance of salvation because you are never sure whether you brought all your sins to the priest or if you sinned before you were able to go to confession.

Once you are “Born Again” Christ’s sacrifice covers it all. There is no, “Hence the Church gathers sinners already caught up in Christ’s salvation but still on the way to holiness:” Born Again Christians are always without sin.

Mary the prototype of the sinless bride?

CC Para 829 “But while in the most Blessed Virgin the Church has already reached that perfection whereby she exists without spot or wrinkle, the faithful still strive to conquer sin and increase in holiness. And so they turn their eyes to Mary” in her, the Church is already the “all-holy.”

The scripture that is sited to support his is Eph 5:26-27

Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

Revelation 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb?s wife.

The bride is the lamb’s wife, not his mother! Christ himself sanctifies his bride (verse 26). The bride does not “strive to conquer sin and increase in holiness,” it is something that Christ does.

Salvation includes non-christians, e.g. Muslims

My jaw just fell open.

CC Para 841 The Church’s relationship with the Muslims. “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”

This scripture makes it clear that we can only be saved by Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

Act 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. 11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Islam is the same religion that says that “god has no son.”

The Pope, successor of Peter

CC Para 882 The Pope, Bishop of Rome and Peter’s successor, “is the perpetual and visible source and foundation of the unity both of the bishops and of the whole company of the faithful.” For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered.”

2 Timothy 4:21 Do thy diligence to come before winter. Eubulus greeteth thee, and Pudens, and Linus, and Claudia, and all the brethren.

The Catholic Encyclopedia sites “Linus” from 2 Timothy 4:21 as the successor to Peter.

There is no proof in the bible that Peter was to have a successor, and that the Pope is it.

The tradition established from Irenaeus mentions, “appeals especially to the bishops of Rome, as depositories or the apostolic tradition.” Linus is the first in the list of bishops mentioned. However, it is plural, e.g., “Apostles.”

Following this line of reasoning there would be *many* popes operating at the same time. Therefore, no conclusion can be drawn about Linus other than he held a prominent position in the Roman church.


Celibacy as an obligation in the consecrated life

CC Para 915 Christ proposes the evangelical counsels, in their great variety, to every disciple. The perfection of charity, to which all the consecrated life the obligation of practicing chastity in celibacy for the sake of the Kingdom, poverty and obedience. It is the profession of these counsels, within a permanent state of life recognized by the Church, that characterizes the life consecrated to God.

This is what the Apostile Paul had to say about celibacy and marriage.

25 Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful. 26 I suppose therefore that this is good for the present distress, I say, that it is good for a man so to be. 27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife. 28 But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you.

Some people have the grace to remain single and persue a life dedicated to God without the responsibilities of family life. Paul was such a man, but it was his personal choice. It was not an obligation.

It is not a sin for a person to marry, whether they be ministers or not. It is a personal choice. In Paul’s day, because of the persecution, he thought that it would be better to spare a family that kind of anguish.

Do saints in heaven intercede for those still living on earth?

CC Para 956 The intercession of the saints. “Being more closely united to Christ, those who dwell in heaven fix the whole Church more firmly in holiness… [T]hey do not cease to intercede with the Father for us, as they proffer the merits which they acquired on earth through the one mediator between God and men, Christ Jesus. … So by their fraternal concern is our weakness greatly helped.

1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

This scripture is referenced in the catechism, which just amazes me. It says there is only one mediator! There is not many mediators, i.e., saints or Mary or anyone on earth. There is only one mediator and it is Jesus alone! Jesus in conjunction with the Holy Spirit interceeds for us on earth.

You cannot store up merits on earth that will help you in heaven.

We can intercede, that is, petition the Father for each other, while here on earth.

1 Timothy 2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

Can we on earth intercede for those who are dead?

CC Para 958 Communion with the dead. “in full consciousness of this communion of the whole Mystical Body of Jesus Christ, the Church in its pilgrim members, from from the very earliest days of the Christian religion, has honored with great respect the memory of the dead; and ‘because it is a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead that they may be loosed from their sins’ she offers her suffrages for them. Our prayer for them is capable not only of helping them, but also of making their intercession for us effective.

Jesus is the only mediator between God and men. This includes people praying for the dead.

Ephesians 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

We are forgiven our sins by Christ. Not just one sin, but all of them. So if all of our sins are forgiven what sin remains?

Mary, mother of the Church?

CC Para 965 After her Son’s Ascension, Mary “aided the beginnings of the Church by her prayers.” In her association with the apostles and serveral women, “we also see Mary by her prayers imploring the gift of the Spirit, who had already overshadowed her in the Annunciation.”

Acts 1:14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.

This is the only mention of Mary after Jesus’ ascension to heaven.


Mary did not die, but rather ascended to heaven?

CC Par 966 “Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and conqueror of sin and death. The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin is a singular participation in her Son’s Resurrection and an anticipation of the resurrection of other Christians:

This paragraph is a complete fabrication. Acts 1:14 is the only mention of Mary the mother of Jesus in the Epistles.


Mary is our intercessor and can save us?

CC Para 969 “This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfilment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay asside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation …. Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.”

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

There is only on mediator between God and men and it is Christ Jesus.


Act 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. 11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Mary can do nothing regarding salvation. Jesus is the only name by which we can be saved.



CC Para 1030 All who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their ethernal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven.

Pergatory is a stop-over before heaven where the believer is purified.

There are three verses used to support this:

1 Peter 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: 8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: 9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

1 Cor 3:15 If any man?s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Matt 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

All of these verses talk about the day of judgment–when we will stand before Christ to receive our reward for things done in this life.

CC Para 1032 “…The Church also commands almsgiving, indulgences, and works of penance undertaken on behalf of the dead:”

Once you are dead, your race is over and the judgement awaits.
Almsgiving is any material favor done to assist the needy (Catholic Encyclopedia). You cannot “store” good deeds for someone else’s salvation.

Indulgence: “An indulgence is the extra-sacramental remission of the temporal punishment due, in God’s justice, to sin that has been forgiven, which remission is granted by the Church in the exercise of the power of the keys, through the application of the superabundant merits of Christ and of the saints, and for some just and reasonable motive. Regarding this definition, the following points are to be noted:” (Catholic Encyclopedia)

Penance: “Penance is a sacrament of the New Law instituted by Christ in which forgiveness of sins committed after baptism is granted through the priest’s absolution to those who with true sorrow confess their sins and promise to satisfy for the same. ”

None of these things affect the dead.

Mortal Sin vs Venial Sin

CC Para 1033 “…To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God’s merciful love means remaining separated from him forever by our own choice.


“So what kind of Sins are Mortal?
In order for a sin to be mortal, it must meet three conditions: Mortal sin is a sin of grave matter Mortal sin is committed with full knowledge of the sinner Mortal sin is committed with deliberate consent of the sinner This means that mortal sins cannot be done “accidentally.” A person who commits a mortal sin is one who knows that their sin is wrong, but still deliberately commits the sin anyway. This means that mortal sins are “premeditated” by the sinner and thus are truly a rejection of God?s law and love.

The first condition, that a mortal sin is of grave matter, means that certain premeditated offenses against God are more severe than others. We know that some sins are graver than others (e.g. it is a graver sin to murder someone than to lie to someone). St. John tells us, “If anyone sees his brother sinning, if the sin is not deadly, he should pray to God and he will give him life. This is only for those whose sin is not deadly. There is such a thing as deadly sin, about which I do not say that you should pray. All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that is not deadly.” (1 John 5:16-17). Thus St. John distinguishes between mortal and venial sin. Jesus also warns us that “Anyone who does not remain in me will be thrown out like a branch and wither; people will gather them and throw them into a fire and they will be burned” (John 15:6).”

Are there various levels of sin and which sins will not lead to death? Putting the question another way. Is there any sin that does not cause one to die?

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Any sin causes death.

Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

All men are condemned to death.

Jesus forgives all sin.

Ephesians 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

Except one:

Mark 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

Sometimes the actual forgiveness of sin is confused with the penalty of sin. Even though God forgives a sin it does not necessarily mean that he will remove the penalty of sin.

Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

Just what is a sacrament?

CC Para 1116 Sacraments are “powers that comes forth” from the Body of Christ, which is ever-living and life-giving. They are actions of the Holy Spirit at work in his body, the Church. They are “the masterworks of God” in the new and everlasting covenant.

The Catholic Church lists these as liturgical sacraments: Baptism, Confirmation, Chrismation, Eucharist, Penance, Anointing of the Sick, Holy Orders, and Matrimony.

By the above list, the actions of the Holy Spirit are severely limited. Furthermore, the items on the list are suspect as to whether they are works of the spirit. Generally speaking, when sacraments are discussed from the catechism it is the seven liturgical sacraments that are discussed and not what evangelicals would refer to as “actions or gifts or the spirit.”

1 Cor 12 deals with workings of the spirit:

1 Cor 12:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. 6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. 7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. 12 ? For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.


How many priesthoods are there?

CC Para 1120 The ordained ministry or ministerial priesthood is at the service of the baptismal priesthood. The ordained priesthood guarantees that it really is Christ who acts in the sacraments through the Holy Spirit for the Church. The saving mission entrusted by the Father to his incarnate Son was committed to the apostles and through them to their successors: they receive the Spirit of Jesus to act in his name and in his person. The ordained minister is the sacramental bond that ties the liturgical action to what the apostles said and did and, through them, to the words and actions of Christ, the source and foundation of the sacraments.

Rev 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; 5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

Is there a priesthood of believers and a super-class, separate priesthood of ordained priests? Revelation addresses the seven churches, all who are kings and priests.


Baptism, Confirmation and Holy Orders to be Sealed?

CC Para 1121 The three sacraments of Baptism, Confimation, and Holy Orders confer, in addition to grace, a sacramental character or “seal” by which the Christian shares in Christ’s priesthood and is made a member of the Church according to different states and functions.

Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

When you believe you are sealed with the Holy Spirit–you are “born again” into the body of Christ, which is the church. Baptism, Confirmation, or Holy Orders are not required. The only requirement is belief.

The levitical priesthood is gone. We have a new high priest in the order of Melchisedic. One in where our high priest is Jesus who will never die. All believers now are Kings and Priests.

Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

There is no need for the levitical priesthood, because Christ, by his one sacrifice, has cleansed us. The levitical priesthood, with its continual animal sacrifices, could never take away sin.

Do we share in the Churches faith handed down from the Apostles?

CC Para 1124 The Church’s faith precedes the faith of the believer who is invited to adhere to it. When the Chruch celebrates the sacraments, she confesses the faith received from the apostles…

Heb 11:1 ? Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders obtained a good report. 3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. 4 ? By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh. 5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. 7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith. 8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:

Faith seen througout the scripture from Abel onward. It did not originate with the apostles and is not dependant on them.

Earth, Fire, Air, and Water: Astrology?

CC Para 1147 God speaks to man through the visible creation. The material cosmos is so presented to man’s intelligence that he can read there traces of its Creator. Light and darkness, wind and fire, water and earth, the tree and its fruit speak of God and symbolize both his greatness and his nearness.

This concept is not from the bible. It is astrology.

Here is just the first site that appears from a google search:


Where did the second commandment go?

CC Para 1149 The great religions of mankind witness, often impressively, to this cosmic and symbolic meaning of religious rites. The liturgy of the Church presupposes, integrates and sanctifies elements from creation and human culture, conferring on them the dignity of signs of grace, of the new creation of Jesus Christ.

Read, idols are okay.

The traditional Catechetical Formula (Catholic ten commandmens) has no second commandment against idols.

Skipping ahead to

CC Para 2130 Nevertheless, already in the Old Testament, God ordained or permitted the making of images that pointed symbolically toward salvation by the incarnate Word: so it was with the bronze serpent, the ark of the covenant, and the cherubim.

Ex 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Could this be any clearer?

Liturgy, faith, and signs

CC Para 1154 The liturgy of the Word is an integral part of sacramental celebrations. To nourish the faith of believers, the signs which accompany the Word of God should be emphasized: the book or the Word (a lectionary or a book of the Gospels), its venerations (procession, incense, candles), the place of its proclamation (lectern or ambo), its audible and intelligible reading, the minister’s homily which extends its proclamation, and the responses of the assembly (acclamations, meditation psalms, litanies, and profession of faith).

What does a liturgical ceremony, a bible on a stand, a lecturn, procession, incense, candles have to do with the working of the Holy Spirit?

What is happening here is the liturgy is replacing the works of the Spirit.

When the Gospel is preached, works of the spirit accompanies it, which have nothing to do with ceremony.

John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. 20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

The signs and miracles and the works of the Holy Spirit happen surrounding the Gospel, but not necessarily as a concious effort by the individual. When the Father did something during Jesus’ ministry, he did likewise.

A liturgy is more closely related to the old testament temple ceremonies that only foreshadowed the gospel and the saving grace of Jesus. A ceremony does nothing to save you. It is only the resurrected Jesus that can save you.


Which day is the Christian Sabbath?

Which day is the christian sabbath? This is a trick question.

CC Para 1166 “By tradition handed down from the apostles which took its origin from the very day of Christ’s Resurrection, the Church celebrates the Pashcal mystery every seventh day, which day is appropriately called the Lord’s Day or Sunday…”

According to Jewish traditon, the sabbath starts on Friday night at sundown and ends the following day, Saturday at sundown. God himself determined when the seventh day of the week would begin by withholding the Manna on the seveth day. This cycle has remained unbroken from the Israelites time in the desert.

EX 16:23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning. 24 And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not stink, neither was there any worm therein. 25 And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field. 26 Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none. 27 And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none. 28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws? 29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day. 30 So the people rested on the seventh day. 31 And the house of Israel called the name thereof Manna: and it was like coriander seed, white; and the taste of it was like wafers made with honey.

If the “sabbath” is not Sunday, but in fact, Saturday. Should we be keeping Saturday (Friday evening, to Saturday evening) in the same manner as the Jews do today?

Hebrews 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. Hebrews 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Hebrews 4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

The “rest” referred to in Hew 4:9 is Sabbatismos–Sabbath.
Hebrews 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

Hebrews 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

But the rest that we have today is not in a day, but in a person. Those who believe enter into the rest that Jesus provides. Therefore, we are free to worship on any day, since we continually have the sabbath living in us.

Those who say that the day Sunday is the chrisitan sabbath is just as wrong as those who say that Saturday is the Christian sabbath.

Prayer–Liturgy of the hours and Vespers

Prayer is greatly different between the Catholic Church and the Evangelical church.

CC Para 1175 The Liturgy of the Hours is intended to become the prayer of the whole People of God. In it Christ himself “continues his priestly work through his Church. His members participate according to their own place in the Church and the circumstances of their lives: priests devoted to pastoral ministry, because they are called to remain diligent in prayer and the service of the word; religious, by the charism of their consecrated lives; all the faithful as much as possible: “Pastors of the souls should see to it that the principal hours, especially Vespers, are celebrated in common in church on Sundays and on the more solemn feasts. The laity, too, are encouraged to recite the divine office, either with the priests, or among themselves, or even individually.”

Liturgy of the hours and Vespers are literally prayers recited in the church at certain times during the day or night.

Here is an example of prayers that you can recite:

But what does scripture have to say about christian prayer?

Philippians 4:6 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

Prayer is personal conversation with God.


What is the church?

CC Para 1181 A church, “a house of prayer in which the Eucharist is celebrated and reserved, where the faithful assemble, and where is worshipped the presence of the Son of God our Savior, offered for us on the sacrificial altar for the help and consolation of the faithful–this house ought to be in good taste and a worthy place for prayer and sacred cermonial. In this “house of God” the truth and the harmony of the signs that make it up should show Christ to be present and active this this place.

The levitical system in the old testament was based around worship in the temple. That central temple was literally the dwelling of God on earth. With the sacrifice of Jesus for our sins and the coming of the Holy Spirit who now dwells in us that central temple no longer exists.

The word “church” in the greek is ekklesia, or “called out ones” is not a physical building anymore.


Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 1 Corinthians 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

The called out ones are the temple!


Gestures and words and the sign of the cross

CC Para 1234 The meaning of grace of the sacrament of Baptism are clearly seen in the rites of its celebration. By following the gestures and words of this celebration wth attentive participation, the faithful are initiated into the riches this sacrament signifies and actually brings about in each newly baptized person.

Do gestures and words have any power in the baptizmal ceremony? And how can an infant be “attentive?”

Baptism (with water) is only a symbol and is not required.

Here in the story of Cornelius baptism follows salvation. It was just a physical sign of their faith.

Acts 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Gestures and words do not initiate anything.

CC Para 1235 The sign of the cross, on the threshold of the celebration marks with the imprint of Christ the one who is going to belong to him and signifies the grace of the redemption Christ won for us by his cross.

Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory


It is the Holy Spirit himself that is the seal or mark that determines whether we are Christians. No physical gesture has power to do anything.

Exorcism and Baptism

CC Para 1237 Since Baptism signifies liberation from sin and from its instigator the devil, one or more exorcisms are pronounced over the candidate. The celebrant then anoints him with the oil of catechumens, or lays his hands on him, and he explicitly renounces Satan. Thus prepared, he is able to confess the faith of the Church, to which he will be “entrusted” by Baptism.

Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Baptism is a symbol of your death and your rebirth free from sin. What is required is repentance and faith in the saving grace of Jesus.The whole body of sin dies along with all of Satan’s work.


Can the Holy Spirit be given to an inanimate object?

CC Para 1238 The baptismal water is consecrated by a prayer of epiclesis (either at this moment or at the Easter Vigil). The Church asks God that through his Son the power of the Holy Spirit may be sent upon the water, so that those who will be baptized in it may be “born of water and the Spirit.”

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

John 3:5 is saying that we must die and be born again.

The spirit does not enter into the water and affect some change. Blessed water is just water.


Confirmation? No. Belief is all that is required.

CC Para 1285 Baptism, the Eucharist, and the sacrament of Confirmation together constitute the “sacraments of Christian initiation,” whose unity must be safeguarded. It must be explained to the faithful that the reception of the sacrament of Confirmation is necessary for the completion of baptismal grace. For “by the sacrament of Confirmation, [the baptised] are more prefectly bound to the Church and are enriched with a special strength of the Holy Spiriit. Hence they are, as true witnesses of Christ, more strictly obliged to spread and defend the faith by word and deed.

Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

There is nothing else that can be added to grace. Belief is the only requirement by which you may be sealed with the Holy Spirit. No other anointing completes grace.


Anointing and marking

CC Para 1295 By this anointing the confimand receives the “mark,” the seal of the Holy Spirit. …”

You are sealed [marked], annointed, and receive the Holy Spirit when you believe.

2Cor 1:21 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God; 22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

1 john 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,


How many times did Jesus have to die?

CC Para 1323 “At the Last Supper, on the night he was betrayed, our Savior instituted the Eucharistic sacrifice of his Body and Blood. This he did in order to perpetuate the sacrifice of the cross thoughout the ages until he should come again, and so to entrust to the beloved Spouse, the Church, a memorial of his death and resurrections; a sacrament of love, a sign of unity, a bond of charity, a Paschal banquet ‘in which Christ is consumed, the mind is filled with grace, and a pledge of future glory is given to us.”

The passover does not perpetuate the sacrifice of the cross. Jesus only needed to suffer once. We observe only the memorial of his death when we eat the bread and wine.

Heb 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: 25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; 26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Can bread be changed into flesh and wine into blood?

CC Para 1333 At the heart of the Eucharistic celebration are the bread and wine, by the words of Christ and the invocation of the Holy Spirit, become Christ’s body and blood. …

This is not a figurative statement. Catholic belief is that the bread and wine actually change into the body and blood of Christ.

Of course, if you were to take the “host” and wine and examine it after the “Eucharistic celebration” you would find that it is still bread and wine.

This ceremony, which was instituted by Jesus before he died, is only a rememberance.

1cor 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: 24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. 26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come.

Significance of Passover

CC Para 1340 By celebrating the Last Supper with his apostles in the course of the Passover meal, Jesus gave the Jewish Passover its definitive meaning. Jesus’ passing over to his father by his death and Resurrection, the new Passover, is anticipated in the Supper and celebrated in the Eucharist, which fulfills the Jewish Passover and anticipates the final Passover of the Church in the glory of the kingdom.

The passover always pictured Jesus’ sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. He himself figuratively is the passover lamb and the unleavened bread. The death angel literally, “passed over,” the houses of the Israelites that had the blood of the passover lamb on their door posts.

Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Through his death our sins are paid for. Through his life we are saved.


Which day shall we break bread?

CC Para 1343 It was above all on “the first day of the week,” Sunday, the day of Jesus’ resurrections, that the Christians met to “break bread.” …

Sunday is not the only day for breaking bread.

Acts 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

Here in Acts 20:7 they did, in fact, meet on Sunday, but in Act 2:46 it says they did it “daily.”

Acts 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

Furthermore, in 1 Cor 11:26 it does not specify a time for “breaking bread.” It is “as often as you do this.”

If Jesus himself set the pattern of when we should break bread then it would have been on the night before he was betrayed.

1 Corinthians 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

but no such admonition exists. We are free to meet and break bread on any day of the week, not just on Sunday.


The pope in the passover?

CC Para 1369 “The whole Church is united with the offering and intercession of Christ. Since he has the ministry of Peter in the Church, the Pope is associated with every celebration of the Eucharist, wherein he is named as the sign and servant of the unity of the universal Church. …”

The rememberance of the passover–the reminder of the sacrifice of Jesus for sin–revolves solely around Jesus. The Pope, does not, and can not be involved with it.


Where is the blood?

CC Para 1384 The Lord addresses an invitation to us, urging us to receive him in the sacrament of the Eucharist: “Truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.”

The protestants take this scripture as purely symbolic. You cannot literally eat the flesh of Jesus. However, Catholics believe that there is an actual change in the bread and wine to be the body and blood of Christ in some way.

I would imagine there are some Catholic churches that serve the wine along with the bread, but I know of very few that do. For argument sake, let’s say that something does actually change and that you do need to literally eat the body and drink the blood? Where is the blood? Under Catholic rules without the blood, “there is no life in you.” By denying people the body with the blood they are denying people heaven. Of course, this is ridiculous.

The bread and wine symbolize Jesus’ sinless life and sacrifice for our sins which he instituted as a rememberance.

Fast before communion

CC Para 1387 To Prepare for worthy reception of this sacrament, the faithful should observe the fast required in their Church. Bodily demeanor (gestures, clothing) ought to convey the respect, solemnity, and joy of this moment when Chrsit becomes our guest.

The only commanded fast is in the old testament, which pictures the return of Jesus who cleanes us from our sins. The new covenant has no commanded fast.:

Lev 16:29 And this shall be a statute for ever unto you: that in the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, ye shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, whether it be one of your own country, or a stranger that sojourneth among you: 30 For on that day shall the priest make an atonement for you, to cleanse you, that ye may be clean from all your sins before the LORD. 31 It shall be a sabbath of rest unto you, and ye shall afflict your souls, by a statute for ever. 32 And the priest, whom he shall anoint, and whom he shall consecrate to minister in the priest’s office in his father’s stead, shall make the atonement, and shall put on the linen clothes, even the holy garments: 33 And he shall make an atonement for the holy sanctuary, and he shall make an atonement for the tabernacle of the congregation, and for the altar, and he shall make an atonement for the priests, and for all the people of the congregation. 34 And this shall be an everlasting statute unto you, to make an atonement for the children of Israel for all their sins once a year. And he did as the LORD commanded Moses

Communion separates us from sin

CC Para 1393 Holy Communion separates us from sin, The body of Christ we receive in Holy Communion is “given up for us,” and the blood we drink “shed for the many for the forgiveness of sins.” For this reason the Eucharist cannot unite us to Christ without at the same time cleansing us from past sins and preserving us from future sins: …”

So which is it, the priest forgiving your sin or Communion forgiving your sin?

The ritual of communion does nothing to forgive sins at all. Neither does confession to the priest. It is the risen Jesus that forgives sins alone. He is our only mediator.

Luke 5:24 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power upon earth to forgive sins, (he said unto the sick of the palsy,) I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy couch, and go into thine house.

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Levels of sin

CC Para 1394 As bodily nourishment restores lost strength, so the Eucharist strengthens our charity, which tends to be weakened in daily life; and this living charity wipes away venial sins. …

CC Para 1395 By the same charity that enkindles in us, the Eucharist preseves us from future mortal sins. …

Are there various levels of sin? Can you sin and still go to heaven?

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Any sin causes death (spiritually).

There is one sin that will not be forgiven:

Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

1 John 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. 17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.


No Priests, no passover

Officially, Catholics will not participate in the Lord’s supper with Protestants.

CC Par 1400 Ecclesial communities derived from the Reformation and separated from the Catholic Church, “have not preserved the proper reality of the Eucharistic mystery in its fullness, especially because of the absence of the sacrament of Holy Orders.” It is for this reason that, for the Catholic Church, Eucharistic intercommunion with these communities is not possible. However these ecclesial communities, “when they commemorate the Lord’s death and resurrection in the Holy Supper…profess that it signifies life in communion with Christ and await his coming in glory.”

Read, no priests to change the bread and wine, no Lord’s supper.


No once saved, always saved

The Catholic church does not believe in once saved always saved.

CC Para “Through the sacraments of initiation, man receives the new life of Christ. Now we carry this life “in earthen vessels,” and it remains “hidden with Christ in God.” We are still in our “earthly tent.” subject to suffering, illness, and death. This new life as a child of God can be ewakened and even lost by sin.”

Penance and the forgiveness of sins

Penance or Forgiveness?

The Roman Catholic Church approaches the concept of forgiveness in a way that does not allow the sinner to once and for all leave the old covenant, which was based on a person’s works, to enter into the new covenant where the sinner is reconciled by the sacrifice of Jesus for the entirety of man’s sins.

Reading the article from, The sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation, from the Catholic Catechism shows that there is a great misunderstanding regarding the atonement of sins.
Forgiveness of sins under the old covenant

Under old covenant law, atonement for sin was based on a different principal from what is used under the new covenant. The sin offering was the means in which a man�s sins would be atoned for in the old covenant. If a man sinned he would bring a bullock to the priest, who would sacrifice the bullock and thus cleanse the person from his sin. This was done on an individual or communal basis and the levitical priesthood, in this case, Aaron, or one of his descendants were to offer the sin offering. Remember that not all levites were priests only Aaron, his sons, and his descendants.

In Ex 29:36 the sin offering was offered to cleanse the altar.

In Lev 4:3 the priest would offer a sin offering for his own sin and for the collective sin of the people.

In Lev 16:6 On the Day of Atonement Aaron would make atonement for his house and for the people as a whole.

In Lev 4:25-26:

25 And the priest shall take of the blood of the sin offering with his finger, and put it upon the horns of the altar of burnt offering, and shall pour out his blood at the bottom of the altar of burnt offering. 26 And he shall burn all his fat upon the altar, as the fat of the sacrifice of peace offerings: and the priest shall make an atonement for him as concerning his sin, and it shall be forgiven him. In Lev 4:27 if one of the common people were to sin through ignorance a sin offering would once again be made by the priest for the atonement of sin. The important thing to remember is that whenever a person sinned, that sin would break the relationship of the person to God. A sacrifice was required to restore the relationship. The priest was required to perform the sacrifice on behalf of the sinner and the sacrifice was one for one. If the individual sinned, a sin offering is required. If the individual sinned again, another sin offering was required. If a house or nation sinned collectively, a sin offering was required to restore the relationship with God. Every year Aaron was to make atonement for himself and for the nation as a whole. The law was not flawed, but man was, because they continually needed to have their sins removed.


From the Catholic Catechism,

Paragraph 1456: Confession to a priest is an essential part of the sacrament of Penance: All mortal sins of which penitents after a diligent confession, even if they are most secret and have been committed against the last two precepts of the Decalogue; for these sins sometimes wound the soul more grievously and are more dangerous then those which are committed openly.

Paragraph 1459: Many sins wrong our neighbor. One must do what is possible in order to repair the harm (e.g., return stolen goods, restore reputation of someone slandered, pay compensation for injuries). Simple justice requires as much. But sin also injures and weakens the sinner himself, as well as his relationships with God and neighbor. Absolution takes away sin, but it does not remedy all the disorders sin has caused. Raised up from sin, the sinner must still recover his full spiritual health by doing something more to make amends for the sin: he must make satisfaction for or �expiate his sins. This satisfaction is also called penance.

Paragraph 1260: The penance the confessor imposes must take into the account the penitent�s personal situation and must seek his spiritual good. It must correspond as far as possible with the gravity of the nature of mercy, service or neighbor, voluntary self-denial, sacrifices, and above all the patient acceptance of the cross we must bear. Such penances help configure us to Christ, who alone expiated our sins once for all. They allow us to become co-heirs with the risen Christ, provided we suffer with him.

Here we see that, in the same way that a person under the old covenant was justified by bringing their sacrifice to the priest a person following Catholic doctrine would bring their sins to the priest who would impose the appropriate penalty. Your sins would be cleansed. Note that almost in the same breath two diametrically opposed ideas are presented confession to a priest as an essential part of the sacrament of penance, and, Such penances help configure us to Christ, who alone expiated or sins once for all. It is illogical: If Christ alone expiated all our sins once and for all, what sin remains to be confessed before the priest? And what penalty (penance) remains to be imposed? The system of penance is just a repackaging of the Old Testament sacrificial system. The Catholic priests are equated to the sons of Aaron. A sinner bringing his bull to be sacrificed as a sin offering is equated to confession before a priest and subsequent penance the confessor imposes on the sinner. In the same way, if you were to sin again you would be required to go before the priest for this whole process to be repeated.
Forgiveness in the New Covenant

In the New Covenant the entire sacrificial system has become obsolete. Things to remember:


  • The priesthood has been changed.
  • Only one sacrifice was required.
  • It is through belief only that we enter into the New Covenant.
  • You are cleansed once and for all.
  • There are no penalties imposed on those who have been forgiven.

Hebrews 7:11 shows that the Aaronic priesthood has been superseded by Jesus� priesthood. He is now the high priest in the order of Melchisedec–a priesthood that continues forever.

Heb 7:24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. 25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. 26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; 27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the peoples: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

Hebrews 10:10 shows that Jesus sacrifice paid the penalty for us once and for all.

Hebrews 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Acts 13:39 shows that when we believe we are justified from our sins.

Acts 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

John 8:11 shows that Jesus did not imposed any penalties when he forgave someone. He simply said, �sin no more.

John 8:10-11 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.



CC Para 1471 (last paragraph) … “An indulgence is partial or plenary according as it removes either part or all of the temporal punishment due to sin. The faithful can gain indulgences for themselves or apply them to the dead.”

This doctrine states that if you sin, but that sin is not a mortal sin, and then you die, you go to Pergatory until your penalty for that sin has been paid. Those already in heaven and on earth can shorten the time you spend in Pergatory. During the course of your life you can store up your indulgences, either for yourself or on behalf of someone already in Pergatory.

This is a completely unbiblical doctrine.

Every man is responsible only for his own sins. Righteousness can not be shared.

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

In 1 Cor 3:14 There is the biblical concept of receiving a reward for your earthly labors for Christ. This reward is from Christ to you alone and has nothing to do with salvation.

1 Corinthians 3:14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.


Attain your own salvation

CC Para 1477 “This treasury includes as well the prayers and good works of the Blessed Virgin Mary. They are truly immense, unfathomable, and even pristine in their value before God. In the treasury, too, are the prayers and good works of all the saints, all those who have followed in the footsteps of Christ the Lord and by his grace have made their lives holy and carried out the mission the Father entrusted to them. In this way they attained their own salvation and at the same time cooperated in saving their brothers in the unity of the Mystical Body.”

Can any man attain their own salvation?


Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. … 10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

It is for this very reason that we need a savior.


Celibacy, doctrine of devils

CC 1579 All the ordained ministers of the Latin Church, with the exception of permanent deacons, are normally chosen from amoung men of faith who live a celibate life and who intend to remain celibate for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. …

According to catholic doctrine, a priest or bishop cannot marry and must remain celibate. The rational for this is that the Apostles were directed to remain celibate. But if this is true, how could the Apostle Peter have been married? And being recorded that he was married, why not allow the other “apostles” to be married?

Matt 8:14 And when Jesus was come into Peter’s house, he saw his wife’s mother laid, and sick of a fever.

LK 4:38 And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon’s house. And Simon’s wife’s mother was taken with a great fever; and they besought him for her.

In Timothy, celibacy and the abstention from “meats” (i.e., no meats on Fridays; a catholic practice) are considered “doctrines of devils.”

1 Tim 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

The apostle Paul’s choice was to remain unmarried, but he himself said that it was not a commandment of God. Some people may choose to remain unmarried as part of their dedication to God, but it shouldn’t be raised to the level of doctrine.

1 Cor 7:6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment. 7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that. 8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.


Human Interdependence is Increasing

CC Para 1911 Human interdependence is increasing and gradually spreading throughout the world. The unity of the human family, embracing people who enjoy equal natural dignity, implies a universal common good. This good calls for an organization of the community of nations able to “provide for the different needs of men; this will involve the sphere of social life to which belong questions of food, hygiene, education, … and certain situations arising here and there, as for example … alleviating the miseries of refugees dispersed througout the world, and assisting migrants and their families.

I am not sure why, but this paragraph bothers me.

Personal Conscience

CC Para 2039 Ministries should be exercised in a spirit of fraternal service and dedication to the Church, in the name of the Lord. At the same time the conscience of each person should avoid confining itself to individualistic considerations in its moral judgements of the person’s own acts. As far as possible conscience should take account of the good of all, as expressed in the moral law, natural and revealed, and consequently in the law of the Church and in the authoritative teaching of the Magisterium on moral questions. Personal conscience and reason should not be set in opposition to the moral law or the Magisterium of the Church.

Read: Don’t question the Magisterium on moral issues, even to the point of violating your conscience.

The scriptures always tell us to follow our concience, not set it aside when it differs with the Magisterium of the church. The Holy Spirit guides us into all truth and will not direct us to violate God’s moral law.

Furthermore, forcing someone to violate their conscience is a sin.

1 Corinthians 8:12 But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.

Infallibility and Morality

CC Para 2035 The supreme degree of participation in the authority of Christ, is ensured by the charism of infallibility. This infallibility extends as far as does the deposit of divine revelation; it also extends to all those elements of doctrine, including morals, without which the saving truths of the faith cannot be preserved, explained or observed.

In other words, you are given the ability to never be wrong concerning doctrine or morality.

I wish I had a nickel for every time I was wrong.

Natural Law and Salvation

CC Para 2036 The authority of the Magisterium extends also to the specific precepts of the natural law, because their observance, demanded by the Creator, is necessary for salvation. In recalling the prescriptions of the natural law, the Magisterium of the Church exercises an essential part of its prophetic office of proclaming to men what they truly are and reminding them of what they should be before God.

Faith in Jesus’ saving grace is the only thing required for salvation and that faith in itself is also a free gift.

Who forgives sins, the church, or God?

CC Para 2040 Thus a true filial spirit toward the Church can develop among Christians. It is the normal flowering of the baptismal grace which has begotten us in the womb of the Church and made us members of the Body of Christ. In her motherly care, the Church grants us the mercy of God which prevails over all our sins and is especially at work in the sacrament of reconciliation. With a mother’s forsight, she also lavishes on us day after day in her liturgy the nourishment of the Word and Eucharist of the Lord.

God alone.

The minimum…

CC Para The precepts of the Church are set in the context of a moral life bound to and nourished by liturgical life. The obligatory character of these positive laws decreed by the pastoral authorities is meant to guarantee to the faithful the very necessary minimum in the spirit of prayer and moral effort, in the growth in love of God and neighbor:

Read: Do these precepts and you will be a good Christian. A program of works.

First precept of the Catholic Church

CC Para 2042 The first precept (“you shall attend Mass on Sundays and on holy days of obligation and rest from servile labor”) requires the faithful to sanctify the day commemorating the Resurrection of the Lord as well as the principal liturgical feasts honoring the mysteries of the Lord, the Blessed Virgin Mary, and the saints; in the first place, by participating in the Eucharistic celevration, in which the Christian community is gathered, and by resting from those works and activities which could impede such a sanctification of these days.

Lev 23:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts. 3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings. 4 These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.

Notice that this is very similar to what is outlined in Leviticus 23. It is a copy of the form that God had laid out for the Israelites under the old covenant. The old covenant was a tutor to bring us to Christ, but what never meant to save. Only the risen Jesus can do that.

This is an effort to establish your righteousness by attending Mass on Sunday and refraining from work, not on the saving Grace of Jesus.


The second precept of the Catholic Church

CC Para 2042 The second precept (“You shall confess your sins at least once a year.”) ensures preparation for the Eucharist by the reception of the sacrament of reconciliation, which continues Baptism’s work of conversion and forgiveness.

Justification by faith means that all of your sins have been forgiven, past, present and future.

The concept of confession is to declare your sins. Acknowlegement that we are sinful is the first stage in the process of salvation. The old man in us (our human nature), even though we are justified, still sins.

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. The “he” referred to here is God himself though Jesus the meditator.

Paul talks about this war between the flesh and the Spirit.

Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

We can go directly to God now, not like in the old testament under the levitical priesthood, and seek forgiveness for our sins (in the flesh) whenever we need to–a continuous process, not just once per year.


Third Precept of the Catholic Church

CC Para 2042 The third precept (“You shall receive the sacrament of the Eucharist at least during the Easter season”) guarantees as a minimum the reception of the Lord’s Body and Blood in connection with the Paschal feasts, the origin and center of the Christian faith.

1 Cor 11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come.

Points to remember:

  1. The bread and wine in what we would call the Lord’s Supper are only symbols. They are not the actual body and blood of Jesus, either spiritually or otherwise. The bread is the symbol of Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross and the forgiveness of our sins. The wine is the symbol of the new covenant. When Christians perform this ceremony, we remember what Jesus has done for us.
  2. There is no time table for this rememberance ceremony. It just says, “as often.” It does not say, once a week, once a month, once a year. The example from the old testament passover is to perform this ceremony exactly once per year. But as Christians in the new covenant there is no such requirement.
  3. When we believe we receive the Holy Spirit. We do not, and can not receive it over and over again as the Catholic church teaches in the mass.

Eph: 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,


Observe days of fasting

CC Para 2043 The fourth precept (“You shall observe the days of fasting and abstinence established by the Church”) ensures the times of ascesis and penance which prepare us for the liturgical feasts and help us acquire mastery over our instincts and freedom of heart.

Should Christians in the New Covenant fast?

Acts 14:23 And when they had ordained them elders in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed.

The only mention of fasting in the new testament is in regard to specific issues. There are no “days of fasting” required for Christians in the new covenant. 

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